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Donald Trump’s comments about President Barack Obama, and his reference to African Americans as “the Blacks” have made the real estate mogul a polarizing figure. Trump recently highlighted his selection of an African American winner of his NBC “The Apprentice” as proof that he’s not a racist, but Randal Pinkett, the one selected, does not agree.

Take a listen to what Pinkett had to say about Trump’s comment, their personal conversation, and if Pinkett would vote for Trump in the 2012 Presidential election.

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